Frank chats with Jon Passow, a freelance brewer and Co-Host of A Starter and A Chaser podcast. Jon shares his varied background, including winemaking, organic farming, brewing, and a stint as a professional actor in Hollywood! Frank also gets Jon's thoughts on how non-beer drinkers should approach craft beer, along with some recommended events and beers from the beverage and culinary scenes in Jon's multicultural hometown of Cleveland, Ohio.